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Warriors and Thunder Game 4

May 23, 2016
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It isn’t for another 24 hours or so, but I am posting this now because I may not be in the mood to make a post after the game. LOL! We have already had some great discussions on Game 2 and 3, but feel free to bring it over with your predictions or with any other important news before the game starts. I have embedded the official NBA “Making the Call” video above. I like this series and I think their taking the time to explain debated calls goes a long way to shut down the whining (though admittedly, whiners are gonna whine). A nine minute highlight reel for game 3 is here, and after the jump, I have embedded “Inside The NBA” (Shaq, Charles, and Kenny) commentary on the game. Note: there may be some overlap in those vids as I haven’t had a chance yet to check them all out yet.



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29 Comments
  1. May 23, 2016 8:32 pm

    Bringing the conversation over here in anticipation of game 4.

    Kenny, agreed that they dodged a nuke. Is it official then, Green isn’t suspended? (I can’t find an article on it). As regards bias, Inside the NBA (Shaq, Kenny, and Charles) state why they think it is different from the other kick in the groin. I don’t believe that there is a conspiracy that big, and Charles is all about the Thunder winning. Regardless, it will be interesting to see to what extent this drama affects the game.

    Here is a good article that sums up a bunch of the things we have been discussing regarding the Warriors and this series.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2016/05/23/the-golden-state-warriors-are-about-to-face-their-toughest-test-in-the-past-two-seasons/

    • May 24, 2016 9:10 am

      GS dodged a bullet with Green not getting a suspension. My opinion is (since I’ve been watching him since his years at MSU) is that he is a ‘flopper’. He tries to draw a foul and sometimes looks badly. Flailing all around with his arms and legs trying to draw contact. That’s what I think here. Do I think he was trying to nail that guy in his jewels? No. Do I think he was poorly executing his ‘flop move’? Yes. Embarrassing….

    • May 24, 2016 5:30 pm

      You make me realize, from his own mouth, his alibi is flopping. He should be fined yesterday.

  2. May 23, 2016 11:01 pm

    OT

    Is Toronto actually gonna take a second game, now?! I am very surprised. I thought they were done. 2:42 left in Q4

    EDIT: They won!! I may have to go back and watch the game.

    • Blankman permalink*
      May 23, 2016 11:30 pm

      No, you don’t, Suns. The Eastern conference is just terrible. It doesn’t matter who comes out of the east because they will simply get folded by the west. I’ve been rooting for OKC ever since my Clippers got knocked out. I consider the Warriors as more of a nemesis to the Clippers than the Thunder. However, I will ultimately root for the Western conference hands down for the championship.

      If the Cavs can’t beat Toronto, how the heck do they think they’re going to fare against the west? Everything is all laughs and celebration with all their sideline dances when they’re winning, but we’ll start to hear Lebron’s bitching now that they’re finally hit with adversity. Just watch. #getfolded

    • May 24, 2016 5:55 am

      LOL@#getfolded

      OT 11 hours after launch, Overwatch Cornie and I are partied up! (I took a long afternoon nap, and just drank a smoothie, so I am ready to go!)

    • RoBBins permalink*
      May 24, 2016 10:51 am

      @esuns, good to know the party system FINALLY works! We tried to group up as soon as the servers went online (Blank, Cornie, Zender, rED and myself) but had absolutely no luck, only to find out that Xbone was the only version with a pooched party system. Damn you, Blizzard!

    • May 24, 2016 4:46 pm

      RoBBins, it was an attack on Xbox live. It wasn’t Blizzard. In fact, don’t use the dashboard to invite. Do everything from within Overwatch. Works smooth as cream cheese.

    • May 25, 2016 12:33 am

      I wouldn’t sleep on the East. Toronto is playing great and the Cavs started well, it all goes down to who can win on the road.

      I think the Cavs pair up well with the Thunder. Lebron forces KD to move more, and not have as much size for rebounds.

      It all depends on the intensity, but it wouldn’t surprise me one bit if OKC takes it all.

  3. May 24, 2016 1:19 pm

    OT: rocket league gets cross plat.. tonight at 3pm with PC! Looks like Sony ended up opting out…. also they directly called it Xbox/steam cross play…

    • May 24, 2016 4:23 pm

      Also June Games With Gold:

      Goat Simulator – June 1-30, Xbox One
      The Crew – June 16-July 15, Xbox One
      Super Meat Boy – June 1-15, Xbox 360
      XCOM: Enemy Unknown – June 16-30, Xbox 360

    • May 24, 2016 5:26 pm

      PC gamers do their stuff with controllers, right? We aren’t going to get owned because of an unequal UI, right (though the experience, knowing where the ball will go, will almost always be in favor of the PC gamers because they have been playing it a lot longer)?

      Steam…..

    • May 24, 2016 5:29 pm

      The cross plat play is opt-in, but I don’t see m/k being a huge advantage in this game. Time will be the big thing… lots of people who are prob highest rank lol

    • May 24, 2016 5:35 pm

      LOL! Entire matches where the ball is just dribbled around and above us. Never touched the ball – just in time for the end of game Spotlight!! Bwahahahaahaha!

  4. Blankman permalink*
    May 24, 2016 11:43 pm

    Dayum, OKC defiantly made a statement tonight that they weren’t going to lose in their house! In a must-win game for the Thunder, they beat the ish out of the Warriors. Not only did they hand GS their second loss in a row out of this entire season, OKC took a commanding 3-1 lead in this series. Just one more win. Steph completely disappeared like he did in last year’s playoff run. His lazy ass passes contributed to the Warriors twenty-one turnovers. I think that it’s a terrible strategy for Curry to guard Westbrook. Steph looked tired and dejected. If Klay Thompson didn’t play out of his mind in the third quarter, it would have been worse. Kerr had no choice but to sit him down after he drew his fourth foul. That essentially took away the only Warrior that could sink a bucket. I guess the Warriors didn’t sip any of Kerr’s Kool-Aid. LOL

    Wow, OKC did not take their foot off the gas! It got pretty hairy when Thompson hit 19 straight points and brought it within six points late in the third quarter, but that all changed when KD came back into the game after a short rest. If the Thunder can’t win one more game to clinch it, it’ll definitely be a heartbreaker of a season for them. Regardless, Durant isn’t going anywhere next seasoneven though every team is going to make a run at his free agency. The Durant & Westbrook duo is a force to be reckoned with. He’d be stupid to leave a teammate of Westbrook’s caliber. Look what happened when Kobe and Shaq broke up. Yeah, they won a few more rings separately, but imagine what they could have accomplished if they stayed together. Also, it didn’t matter if Donkey were suspended or not because he was a non-factor with six points.

  5. May 24, 2016 11:49 pm

    Steph Curry 6-20, 2-10, 6 turnovers, 19 points. The guy who guarded him had a triple-double with 36 points. Unanimous MVP vs. Playoff MVP ๐Ÿ˜›

    • Blankman permalink*
      May 25, 2016 12:01 am

      I think that it’s a strategic blunder to have Curry guard Westbrook. His defense is not good enough to contain Westbrook, and it leaves him exhausted on the offensive end. Kerr better figure something else out.

      Now analysts are wondering if Curry’s knee is bothering him. Ummm no, he’s playing lazily. I’m not going to argue that his shot selection is bad because he normally makes those kind of shots, but he was dead cold tonight; just like game three. How many of his passes were easily picked off tonight? He might be great in the regular season, but the playoffs are where you leave your mark. Shades of the Dodgers’ ace, Clayton Kershaw.

      Wow, the Thunder blew out the defending champs by twenty-four points! I wonder if the Warriors are still telling themselves that it’s still a seven-game series. Keep thinking that because OKC only needs one more game. That kind of attitude is defeatist and that’s the kind of Kool-Aid that you don’t want to drink.

    • May 25, 2016 12:18 am

      They started the game with a half court three. I think Barkley nailed in the head, they fell in love with the three, and don’t know how to play differently.

      But again this isn’t about the warriors as much as the Thunder simply defending them better than anyone else has.

      All the interviews I have seen from the Warriors they keep saying they weren’t able to play their game and blah blah blah. They have. They have shot the same shots is just that they have less chance to go in with a hand in your face at the right time.

      They need to change their game, but again how do you tell them that when they won 73 that way?

      They drank their kool aid thinking they are the best team ever.

      Well, no handchecks, asterisks needed. They are not. Good luck not losing one more game.

    • Blankman permalink*
      May 25, 2016 12:29 am

      Live by the three, die by the three. Yeah, it’s tough to try a new offensive strategy with all of their regular season success. You are correct that in this era without hand checks it does making it tremendously easier for scoring, Frankie. No debate about that. However, to say that there should be asterisks placed? That would go for every team that’s won since the rule change. No way. Teams just play a ridiculous faster paced game now. It’s more athletic than what it used to be. Also, it’s a waste of time to debate which team is the best of all-time. That’s just click bait for sport sites that run out of pertinent stuff to write about.

    • May 25, 2016 12:59 am

      See I don’t get that. That’s the whole point of watching sports, if there is no debate of matchups between all-time great teams, then you are just stuck forever in the present, and can’t then imagine the future.

      I mean that pretty much then makes pointless watching anything right now because in 5-10 years the game can change and shift and then you have a complete different meaning of what greatness is based on the rules within that era.

      Like for example they are trying to change the “Hack-a-Shaq” strategy with new rules. Depending the success of it, I can guarantee you that once someone benefits from that rule they are going to start the argument of how great Shaq or Wilt would have been had they not been fouled as much, etc.

      No. I think regardless of how much the game changes in any way, there are still qualities that persist that makes certain players or teams above others, which is what we are truly celebrating through the sport.

      For me the way this series has gone, I have no doubt that the 96′ Bulls would have won by a sweep, I am pretty sure Scottie Pippen is smiling right now after his comments.

      See to me it’s not about comparing tapes of old vs. the new. It’s basically if you took someone with MJ’s competitiveness, you don’t think he would develop more athleticism in this era? Hell yeah. MJ would be torching the sidelines without anyone being able to lay a hand on him, or fouling him really hard with the repercussions that the Pistons didn’t have when they beat him.

      To me the makeup of a great player is more than how fast he can sprint down the court. He would be able to adapt to today’s game. I mean we are not talking about George Mikan here ๐Ÿ˜›

  6. May 25, 2016 12:05 am

    I haven’t even watched the game. I started watching during my spare and when OKC went 9 straight in the first period, I couldn’t stand it. I zoomed ahead to check the score and they were down by 19 at the half. I figured it was probably done.

    I disagree with none of the criticisms. I have lots to say, but I will save it for after the fat lady sings.

    • Blankman permalink*
      May 25, 2016 12:12 am

      Yeah, you don’t want to watch this latest game, Mike. It’ll piss you off. In fact, I’d go as far as to skip all of the game’s highlights. GS was outplayed at every aspect of the game, and their body language showed it. There was no energy, no urgency, and no killer instinct. Now what? No one had anything to say on their bench. Where’s the banter and the bravado now?

      If OKC winds up losing this series, it’ll be almost as bad as last year’s self-destruction by my Clippers. Alright, I can’t even type that with a straight face because that fail was horrendous. Hahaha! Damn, that lose still stings. Talk about breaking Ballmer’s heart.

  7. May 25, 2016 6:51 pm

    And Green was fined. Now that the Warriors aren’t looking to win anyway, maybe the NBA is seeing a chance to rethink it.

    Flagrant upgraded to 2 and fined.

    http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2016/story/_/id/15687018/2016-nba-playoffs-golden-state-warriors-draymond-green-fined-not-suspended-kick-groin-oklahoma-city-thunder-steven-adams

    And some other interesting stories:

    https://newrepublic.com/minutes/133720/oklahoma-city-thunder-figured-golden-state-warriors-just-another-level

    http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/golden-state-warriors-jinx-joe-lacob-owner-new-york-times-magazine-052516

    It wasn’t a jinx. It was OKC led by Westbrook and Durant that are changing the Warriors “luck” – but I agree completely, humility is a virtue.

    • May 25, 2016 10:42 pm

      By the way, I just want this one on the record, if the hit (bench) man Cav is only getting a one game suspension for his punch to the nuts followed by an elbow (literally trying to take out the Raptor), then a Flagrant 2 with a fine is probably appropriate for Green’s intentional flailing.

  8. May 25, 2016 11:21 pm

    Kenny Smith, on Inside the NBA said the same think, Blank. Curry should not be guarding Westbrook. Kerr needs to start earning his Coach of the Year, and switch this shit around. Unbelievable.

  9. Herandar permalink
    May 26, 2016 7:55 am

    No, he needs to wait for his video guy to suggest a matchup change, so then the owner can get a long New York Times ego puff piece extolling how amazing and revolutionary the management structure is that he assembled is.

    But what really pissed me off is the 200 diamonds for the Championship ring.

    • May 26, 2016 5:53 pm

      LOL! I will never criticize an owner for giving something back to the players.

      However, I as a player, I would have preferred a ring that I could actually wear most of the time. The one they got was darn near bigger than a silver dollar, which means the only time it can be practically worn (without great discomfort or worry that someone will kill you for it) is at high security black tie dinners. You look at the grizzled Champions with their simple little rings…and realize that every single day of every year of their life, they wear it in comfort and without fear, and are reminded of their accomplishment.

  10. Herandar permalink
    May 26, 2016 8:15 pm

    So the first ring has 240 diamonds for the 240 wins under current egoship. If they win again this year, they’ll need to use 240+73+16= 329 diamonds per ring and use 73% gold.

    • May 26, 2016 8:17 pm

      Yes, they turned their ring into bling. lol!

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