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Warriors Ground: The Vision (NBATV Video)

May 15, 2016

Frenik and I were discussing the playoffs and we briefly touched on the intangible (unquantifiable) factor of “chemistry”. Today, when browsing NBATV, I came across a 22 minute video on the Warriors organization, and the word itself comes up many times, (though they don’t quantify it – lol). For those interested in seeing and hearing the people behind the scenes, including the elusive Jerry West, here is a little glimpse.

  1. May 16, 2016 3:07 am

    Here is another.

    There is a big chunk in the middle on Livingston – great story – makes Derrick Rose look so house-cat soft.

    EDIT: They talk about “luck” a little at the end. It is funny, because I think the only people who talk about “luck” are those who didn’t win.

  2. May 16, 2016 5:33 am

    NOTE: I originally made this it’s own post, but it was just too much BB and especially Warriors. So, I deleted that and have just added it as a comment to this thread.

    And here is another. I didn’t even bother to watch the whole thing, but skimming through, I did catch two things. First, in the middle, the “Splash Brothers BB Camp”. Many members of the team showed up to the Curry and Thompson show, presumably just to hang and help. That is friendship, humility, and chemistry. I am not saying that teammates won’t leave to make better coin or become their own Star of a team (a bunch may leave the Warriors next year), but that is different than leaving because you aren’t “appreciated” or you “don’t get along”. The other point is Steve Kerr’s Four Core Values: Competition, Compassion, Mindfulness, and Joy! (The video is queued up to that point so you can watch just from there.)

  3. RoBBins permalink*
    May 16, 2016 10:48 am

    I’m so pumped for the Warriors/Thunder series to start tonight! Should be an amazing series, assuming either team doesn’t sweep the other!

    • May 16, 2016 7:58 pm

      Yes, this should be incredible. The Thunder are hungry and dangerous like a brown belt in a dojo. And the Warriors have shown this year that the better the team, the harder they play. I wouldn’t be surprised one bit if it goes down to the final minutes in the seventh game. There also may be one or two really one-sided games, but I will be very surprised if either team allows themselves to be swept! (though it is totally possible).

      Gonna watch it a couple hours after broadcast. I only have one class today. Doing all my prep for tomorrow, and then when the staff room is empty, gonna video on demand it! May even have to get myself some microwave popcorn.

      Great to hear you are watchin’, too, RoBBins!

    • Blankman permalink*
      May 17, 2016 12:18 am

      Dayum, OKC came back with a vengeance after half time & took Game 1 at Oakland! It’s not often that the Warriors get cold with their shooting, especially on home court. People are gonna talk about Westbrook’s travel that went uncalled by the refs, but the Warriors put themselves in that situation by missing their shots. When you’re leading 60 to 47 at halftime, you don’t take your foot off of the gas pedal for any team, especially an elite team like the Thunder. Shit just got real.

    • May 17, 2016 1:55 am

      Oh they went for the pedal many times. I don’t think that was their problem at all. In fact many times even when behind they stepped foot on the gas thinking every shot was going to go in like before.

      Now comes the hard part for Steve Kerr, how is he going to tell them not to do what they have done all year because it didn’t work.

      Again they are sort of screwed with the Thunder if they try to slow it down. They have 3 guys over 6’10” that can move quickly at all times and will have rebound advantage if they start to shoot 3s and miss.

      The only way they can break the defense is penetrating and trying to get fouled, but then again Thunder didn’t commit that many fouls.

      On the other end you have Durant that was basically playing himself. He missed a lot late, but for me seeing how easy he scored on Iguodala, like he wasn’t even close to be able to contest his shot, is just scary.

      Spurs weren’t old, they just got beat by a better team. We are about to find out how good the Warriors really are.

    • RoBBins permalink*
      May 18, 2016 11:06 am

      That was an incredible game 1! Every time the Thunder would make some sort of run, Curry or Klay or Barnes would answer with multiple 3’s and immediately boost their lead again. I have to say that I’m rooting for the Thunder here, and maybe to win it all. On the other coast of things, Cleveland is looking very strong right now. 9-0 is a damn good start to the post season!

  4. May 17, 2016 12:54 am

    This is the first game since the Warriors met the Pistons (Were Andre Drummond was basically playing volleyball with the basketball by himself under the rim) that I could clearly see how the small ball system did them in.

    That is the scary notion. Forget about the turnovers, forget about poor shooting, forget about Steph disappearing in the second half. The pivotal moment was basically seeing all that size from OKC in the court, keeping up with all the smaller guys from the Warriors and basically bailing them out on rebounds, second chance points, and even free throws!

    See all those other points you can improve on, but you can’t reconfigure your roster now. You can’t really say you can play Bogut, Ezeli, Speights or even Varejao more because that pretty much nullifies your advantage in your system, and it doesn’t guarantee that they will outplay their counterparts.

    The other scary point was stamina. Thunder played with just 8 guys. That’s it. No one went into foul trouble. Durant rested 2 minutes!

    Because of that the defense was there throughout the game. I remember one key penetration from Steph and he got Durant on the defensive switch, he effortlessly blocked his shot. It’s been a while since I have seen someone not only keep up with Steph on a switch but calmly dismiss him defensively.

    Hey this is just one game in the series, but with those alarming points I am not even sure it might stay close if the Thunder starts hitting shots consistently and show up to play early in the game. Sure they can screw up along the way, but like when they met in the regular season it’s their series to lose.

    Russell Westbrook had an insane stat line. Could have made a triple-double, or even a quadruple double. Still think he should have gotten a few votes for MVP, but it doesn’t matter because if he keeps playing like this he could be getting the MVP that really matters.

    • Blankman permalink*
      May 17, 2016 1:36 am

      Good analysis, Frankie! OKC kind of exposed the Warriors’ small ball system in this game. It sure didn’t help that Golden State didn’t shoot like their regular selves.

      Westbrook absolutely went nuts after the half. He basically made up for KD’s cold hand even though the stats had him at twenty-six points. 10-of-30 won’t won you any games unless you have a wingman of Westbrook’s caliber stepping up. That tandem is a force to be reckoned with. It also helped that Adams had a solid game & Ibaka was playing great defense as well. Russell put the team on his shoulders and completely changed the momentum of the game after they came out of the locker room. He should have received second place in the MVP voting instead of Leonard. Heck, he didn’t even get third which went to that hater, Lebron. This is the series to watch for sure.

    • May 17, 2016 2:14 am

      yeah but neither did the Thunder. That’s the thing, it’s not an: If the warriors shoot better… because the Thunder just won shooting poorly.

    • May 17, 2016 2:13 am

      OK, I just finished the game and didn’t know what the score was until it was over. Great game for suspense. But It wasn’t pretty basketball on either side of the court, especially in the early fourth where both teams were just running back and forth shooting low percentage shots.

      Agreed about all individual performances, especially Westbrook who has grown so much, and tried so hard to be a better point guard (major props).

      Frenik, you said it was about system. However, because the Warriors soundly took the first half, and the Thunder took the second, I would have thought it was more about “momentum” and “turnovers” and then about “getting cold*”. So, my question is, what was different between the two halves that bring the small ball system into question? (I ask genuinely.)

      *When so much of your offense depends on good shooting, if you aren’t in the zone, you are really in trouble. And it is hard to get into the zone if you can’t move around and get some momentum going – Steve Kerr himself said that there were too many fouls that slowed the game down.

    • Blankman permalink*
      May 17, 2016 2:33 am

      OKC’s big men (Adams, Ibaka, Kanter, & Durant) had a total of thirty-nine rebounds, of which thirty of them were defensive boards. Compare that to what the Warriors had, and it’s easy to see the difference. The Thunder not only matched the Warriors’ speed, but capitalized on GS’ missed shots.

      If Kerr reshuffles some of his big men to counter OKC’s bigs, they can’t hope to keep up. When the Warriors miss shots like they did during the second half, the Thunder are going to make you pay because they simply have the height to crash the boards. Both teams were plagued with bad shooting, but OKC shifted the momentum when it counted- down the stretch.

    • May 17, 2016 2:47 am

      Well you can see it clearly on the box score. None of the big guys had more than 6 boards on the Warriors side. Klay and Steph got high rebounds because they basically got the loose balls from contested balls.

      Rebounds has been the part were Draymond and Iggy have been able to craft the small ball system into a doable game system, and right now OKC just close the door on that.

      The other thing is that Golden State didn’t get cold in my opinion. They had less room to work with on the offensive end because the other thing the big men from OKC did was switch right on queue.

      They did that much better in the second half, than in the first. In the first just like a gazillion times before the Warriors would make you pay for being a step too late. Second half, it became a whole other story.

      That’s what surprised me about this game, how drastically and emphatically it changed just because of adjustments in how they played.

      Just like with the Spurs Billy Donovan even played Kanter and Adams at the same time, and they were able to keep up on the defensive switches.

      Russell was on Curry the whole time, and what sets him apart from anyone else is that he played suffocating D on Curry and had the stamina to carry his team on the other end.

      Also the other thing where the small ball system works for the warriors is turnovers from the other team. There’s a reason why Curry leads the league in steals, yet has never been voted for any defensive team. His steals come from bad passes not necessarily from on-ball defense.

      So when the Thunder where turning the ball easily that played into the hand of the Warriors game, were they would run run run to the other side take a quick shot from three, etc.

      As soon as the Thunder took care of the ball, and started getting fouled, all the advantages of playing small ball went with it.

      You can see how the Blazers in comparison played the warriors, they went at the same pace, took the same big shots, etc. That’s an example of a run n gun offense on both sides, it literally went down to who could keep the stamina longer.

      The thing that’s surprising about this win, is that Thunder played very ugly yet found a system to keep them in the game regardless. Portland in comparison had to super duper overachieve in both their wins.

  5. May 17, 2016 3:34 am

    Bringing it down here.

    Thanks for the analysis and explanations, guys! I genuinely appreciate learning more about the game.

    My own take after the dust has settled is: agreeing with much of what you guys say, I do think that the Warriors had a lot of open looks from behind the arc and missed anyway. Not all their missed shots were because OKC was bigger and didn’t let them get a good shot off. Also, I don’t count the Warriors small ball system out yet – half a game doesn’t win the series, but a bunch of halves will. I am curious to see if there are adjustments that the Warriors can make in turn, to counter the adjustments of OKC. This is where coaches earn their money. Or, if as you say, the Small Ball game comes to a screeching halt, because it can’t overcome.

    Great series. I hope in the next game, both teams player tighter with less error and slippage and the game is more about soundly winning and losing (even if close) rather than questions of not playing your best. OKC definitely could have played tighter in the first half (regardless of strategy) as could the Warriors in the second. inexplicably doesn’t provide any kind of useful statistical tools (or presentation, which is so bad and slow, I just had to give up). ESPN has a good spreadsheet of info on the game.

  6. May 17, 2016 3:48 am

    Frenik I just saw above that you mentioned that OKC shot poorly, but they actually shot better than their season average.

    OKC FG 43.5 (SA – 46.1) 3PM 47.1 (SA – 34.7)

    Like you said, though, guarding Durant, 1/4 3s, is gonna be crazy!

    GSW FG 44.0 (SA – 47.6) 3PM 36.7 (SA – 40.3)

    I looked at the individuals and Durant, especially, didn’t shoot well, which means if he does better, he will score much more.

  7. May 17, 2016 3:58 pm

    All this drama, and still about 1/10th of the excitement of Cornie and I’s ranked doubles run in RL last night… :p

    Also, Black Ops 1 is backwards compat now.

    • May 17, 2016 6:19 pm

      LOL!! I heard you went on a tear!! Cornie had a fantastic time!

      And that’s right, we were talking about the intensity of competitive video gaming on the weekend!

      EDIT: You guys are lookin’ more and more like the “pros” in the videos. Seriously. And Cornie doesn’t really even want to have me as his partner anymore. I am left behind in the dust – and that is with all my improvement! 😉 No hard feelings though. I am happy to just watch.

  8. May 17, 2016 9:59 pm

    The Caveliers are whippin’ the Raptors, as I thought they would. The Raptors may yet put up a fight, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the Cavs swept that series as well. In which case, they will be well rested for whichever team makes it out of the West – and whichever that team is, chances are they will be banged up and exhausted.

    • May 18, 2016 1:20 am

      There still takeaways though, they completely changed their game again, this time it was all inside. I think that was the best part, they showed little rust, and showed they can adapt to how they are defended. If I am the west, this is definitely not the version of the cavs I want to be playing.

    • May 18, 2016 2:37 am

      Beat them by 30, not so far from what I expected before the game even started. Yes, I am not at all confident anymore that Golden State (if they even make the Finals) can take the current Cavs. Those guys, like the Thunder, are very hungry for this one, and this year, they have two of their starters back.

      I am reminded that the regular season is not the playoffs! Wow!

  9. May 17, 2016 10:33 pm

    Guys, if you have a chance to watch the post game Inside the NBA (below is a clip), it is an enjoyable show, and mostly saying what you are saying. Charles actually predicted OKC winning this series, and he says if they stop their turnovers and just do what they are doing, they will win (meaning what the Warriors do or don’t do, isn’t even a factor).

    Great series! Can’t wait for tomorrow’s game. In the meantime, maybe there will be some great RL highlights to come home to. I see that rED, Zos and Cornie are playing “Standard”, if I am not mistaken. WOOOO!!!!!!

    EDIT! Beyond EPIC! rED, Zos, and Cornie Live Stream Rocket League with PARTY CHAT!!! I have classes ALL DAY. Won’t be able to watch, but I can listen a little at recess. LOL

    • RoBBins permalink*
      May 18, 2016 11:15 am

      Game 2 of GS/OKC tonight! Between playoffs and Uncharted 4, this has been a great month so far!

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