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Console Wars: PS3 outsells 360 lifetime sales. What does it mean?

June 30, 2013

The PS3 takes over the second spot on the all-time sales list of the current generation. Small margin right now, and nearly 4 months shy of it’s release 7 years ago. They finally did it, even though they still have not conquered North America. It is tricky to figure out what does this mean going forward. On one hand many of us bought the PS3 as a means to have a Blu-ray player, and aside from some notable exclusives, in my case, it stayed pretty much a Blu-Ray Player. 

Now that the Xbox One has BR, there’s no point to double up on consoles as much. Except maybe install base. PS4 has more pre-orders and the Xbox One, but that was before MS started their damage control reversing the DMR and Online requirements for now.(I say “Now” because the vague letter doesn’t mention it being a permanent change, or something that can’t be altered by the ToS later on.)

In any case what I take from it is that there are more PS3 being sold right now, and that matters because the PS4 being $100 cheaper can start strongly as well. However it can also mean that if MS, like Sony at the current gen launch, stubbornly sticks to a higher price can still somehow make it all work out in the end with strong exclusives like the PS3 is doing right now.

There are still too many intangibles in the air that can alter course. The Xbox One “Family” sharing games can be a big thing. (Even though the wording in the explanation is very vague as well, especially if disc games are still required in the tray for playing.) So would be the integration of Skype into the Xbox. PS4 will have some free online gaming with “Free To Play Games”. Also since Online services are going pay for the PS4, there’s no telling how wide the gap of XBL services and PSN will be in the next generation.

In my opinion it is still too foggy to see what is going to happen in the next two years.

All I know from the facts is that:

A) Kinect was a fun gadget for about a month until I unplugged it, boxed it and forgot it existed until I was moving to Portland and traded it in for games. There is no way I am going to pay twice for that crap, and much less $100 more than a competing console for it. I shudder to think the “Kinect Mic Hell” that is about to ensue due to it being sold with the console.

B) All the hype about the “All-in-One” media Hub is not as meaningful anymore. We have tablets, smart tvs and smart phones, there’s just not much of a reason to use a gaming console as a Netflix player, internet browser or  the limited apps. Smart Glass App was a cool idea, but Smart TVs can now sync with tablets and phones and you can basically cut the console out of the loop.

C) More gaming options. Tablets and Smartphones, are getting better quality “Free To Play” games, and most gamest are under $10 or $5. A handful of quality mobile games can easily take away from the console time. Smart TVs will bring games as well. There are other consoles looming in the horizon. PC is getting revived with lower costs and the “Free To Play” format. This is not going to alter things next November, but it could potentially change things over time as more competition drives down prices.

Somehow I feel like the “Wait for all this to blow over” sequence in Shawn of the Dead. Except the Winchester, in my case is the xbox 360. Somewhere familiar, somewhere safe and wait until all this blows over.

  1. July 1, 2013 3:16 am

    I am definitely going to watch the launch of the systems with great interest. The system seller, The Division, doesn’t come out for at least another 18 months, so I have lots of time, and hopefully Microsoft will take that time to lower their price. 🙂

  2. FrenkoFrenik permalink
    July 1, 2013 2:58 pm

    Yeah there’s plenty of time. I did a rough count of my gaming backlog and I have more than 30 games to finish the SP portions. At about 8 hours a SP, and just dedicating 2-3 hours per day that can easily stretch about 3 months worth of gaming on SP backlog alone. On top of that putting some MP time on my favorite games, prestiging a few more times on BLOPS 2, finishing Assingments on BF3, etc.

    and I should have plenty to do until and after this fall. That’s without counting my PS3 backlog, I have Uncharted 3 to finish, put some more time on MAG, and eventually grab Last of Us when it hits the $20-30 range.

    I am going fully digital on the next gen so I am hoping next year they release either a Halo Bundle with 1TB or something along those lines. My 320gb hard drive is full from digital games and DLC. Defiance alone requires me to install the game and have 10gb worth of space.

    I can imagine the next gen will run it dry even faster with bigger file sizes, video captures, MMOs, etc.

    • July 1, 2013 3:36 pm

      Yeah, instead of a 2 Terabyte HD, Microsoft is giving us Kinect. It is SO. TRAGIC.

      I was thinking more about this, and closer the fight between Sony and Microsoft, the better it is for us. Funny thing is, MS could have darn near slammed the door on Sony last generation, but instead pooped in everyone’s living room with their RRoD. Sony managed to race neck and neck with them because of it. Now, this coming generation, they open the door for Sony first with their blundering DRM announcements (which they changed…for now) and with Kinect (which almost no one wants, and of which there is no end to negative press).

    • July 1, 2013 7:31 pm

      I think in terms of Kinect, It is going to be wanted by a very large casual gamer base. As much as the Xbox One got bad press, a large percentage of people who will be buying consoles this fall, do not even follow E3 etc. I also am not ready to count out Kinect as an input device and features like this are interesting to me.

      In terms of HDD space, who wouldn’t want more? But that being said I think 500GB is sufficient. Even on my PC, i haven’t used more than 500GB of my HDD (which is 1tb). I don’t really see people having “THAT” hard of a time managing their files.

      What Microsoft DOES need to do, is to allow external storage devices. Or storing on network storage.

      Also, when did BF4 NOT become the killer app of next gen? Honestly, regardless of whether or not it is on 360/PS3, there is no way people are gonna watch footage of that game and not yearn for their own next-gen systems.

      Oh, and this video sums up microsoft’s PR abilities:

    • July 1, 2013 9:31 pm

      BWAhahahaha! It rotates!!!! Bwahahahaahaha!

    • FrenkoFrenik permalink
      July 1, 2013 10:47 pm

      It all depends on the game file sizes. If they compress the 7.1 audio or not, and the video.

      For example The Last of Us uncompressed (27gb)

      Last of Us

      Uncharted is huge (40gb)


      If the game sizes of the installs and digital downloads are near that for the next gen then for me 500gb would not be future proof at all unless the servers are really top notch and you can reliably download 25gb without a problem, then it would only be a hassle of deleting games to make room and having your entire catalogue of games on demand at any time.

  3. FrenkoFrenik permalink
    July 1, 2013 11:12 pm

    Also speaking of which I just saw the new PSN update and they already have a “Free to Play” list on the shop, just like the free games in xbox live as well as DC universe, Tekken Revolution, Uncharted 3 MP only, Jetpack Joyride, Zen Pinball 2, and a few other arcade games.

    and on the PSN Plus they have Saints Row 3, Uncharted 3 and XCOM:EU, LBP karting and some other arcade games.

    So yeah I think in the Free stuff department PSN is already beating XBL as Fable 3 for me doesn’t compare that much to any of these. Lets see if they bring them to XBL.

  4. FrenkoFrenik permalink
    July 2, 2013 12:48 am

    oh man if they had done this for GOW:Judgement it would not be dead and empty as it is now. You can even pick which parts of the multiplayer you want to buy:

    So instead of a demo they could have done a free to play identical version of some portions of the MP and not split the community.

    • July 2, 2013 5:55 am

      Yeah, I agree with you about the HD space. In a world of digital games and videos, 500 GB is simply not enough for convenient gaming, unless they allow third party external storage devices as Zos mentioned.

      GoW:J was a travesty. It offers the best Gears MP since the original and I love both OverRun and Breakthrough. Their greed just absolutely killed it. Can you imagine if they had done the opposite as you described or even just offered the game as an XBLA title for 15 or 20 dollars and supported the heck out of it with more DLC? Everyone who ran back to Gears 3 (that unplayable shite), would have gladly accepted the wonderful changes because they didn’t get their bank broken for it. Everyone would have migrated, even the haters because they would have had a positive attitude going into it. Instead, the developers reached into the customers’ pockets, took all their money, squeezed their balls really hard, and then slapped their faces. After that, they expected the gamers to be open minded about what were actually excellent gameplay reversals (no more stopping power, and faster movement).

    • FrenkoFrenik permalink
      July 3, 2013 10:25 am

      well if they had done it free to play, i would have put free the empty playlists. I mean if you are going to just have 100 people online in playlists that no one plays, might as well make it free, and then have a small fee to unlock Overrun and TDM. Levels don’t matter that much on gears so they can’t level cap like in Uncharted Free-to-play.

      However essentially Sony right now is testing a new pay scheme with that game in the link I posted before you could essentially buy the whole game in chunks choosing what you really want to pay instead of paying a flat fee.

      That works for me. I would much rather pay $20-30 for MP only (on release) than paying $60 if I am not going to even touch the SP.

      but yeah hopefully that takes off on the PS4 (and the copied by MS) and there are more paying options in games because I really doubt the “Let’s buy the next big game of the month” bandwagon is going to work next gen.

      As for external storage space, i doubt it, I am sure they just released 500gb so they can sell 1tb SKU a year later. Right now we can only have 16gb, I would be surprised if they let us have more than 50gb in external storage.

      Titanfall is also coming to the 360. : )

    • Blankman permalink
      July 3, 2013 11:39 am

      Sony is playing ball like they have nothing to lose while MS continues down the money grab path. It is ridiculous that MS has XBL & they still don’t have a solid strategy for its subscribers while PSN+ is actually putting incentives out there to entice potential subscribers. Meanwhile, MS is hemming and hawing about releasing completely bullsh!t free titles like Defense Grid. WTF is going on?!? Then Major Nelson goes on his log and comes out with that ridiculous question of how the community assumed that AC2 & Halo 3 were going to be the July offerings. Um, maybe because MS actually confirmed it. Either he’s senile or MS is in such disarray that they can’t tell their heads from their asses. They better get their crap together because Sony is acting like a cornered animal right now. And you know how a cornered animal is going to act…

  5. July 2, 2013 12:52 pm

    Speaking of killer apps… apparently Titan Fall IS the shit. Not a bad console exclusive from the looks of it.

    Best of Show
    (Respawn/EA for PC, Xbox 360, Xbox One)

    Best Original Game
    (Respawn/EA for PC, XBox 360, Xbox One)

    Best Console Game
    (Respawn/EA for PC, Xbox 360, Xbox One

    Best PC Game
    (Respawn/EA for PC, Xbox 360, Xbox One)

    Best Action Game
    (Respawn/EA for PC, Xbox 360, Xbox One)

    Best Online Multiplayer
    (Respawn/EA for PC, Xbox 360, Xbox One)

    This is based on pretty much every major gaming press outlet.

  6. July 2, 2013 12:52 pm

    Oh and..

    Best Hardware/Peripheral
    Oculus Rift
    (Oculus VR)

    • rEDChief55 permalink*
      July 2, 2013 7:55 pm

      Not a surprise unfortunately

    • Average permalink*
      July 4, 2013 12:08 pm

      No region lock, could be shipped from the americas no?

    • July 4, 2013 2:57 pm

      Yeah, but we are not importing that stuff. The extra cost for shipping and the worry about damage etc, is more than my wallet and heart can handle.

  7. July 3, 2013 6:43 am

    You know, this morning I didn’t think of Titanfall as beating out The Division for all those awards. Having had a chance to realize that indeed, that is exactly what happened, I am shocked. As I said earlier, I have warmed up to Titanfall, but come on, more exciting than The Division?! That is saying something. It must be because they had hands on opportunities for the “critics”.

    • Blankman permalink
      July 3, 2013 11:30 am

      That’s because Titanfall is closer to realization than The Division. Watch it clean house at E3 2014 because it will definitely be shown & playable to the press which it wasn’t at this year’s E3.

    • July 3, 2013 12:07 pm

      Yeah. While The Division looks amazing, what was shown was extremely controlled and limited (obviously because it is so early).

    • July 4, 2013 8:29 pm

      Like I said in reply to Zos, the only reason Titanfall won so many awards was because it was one of the few games that were playable at E3. Those awards only go to games that can be played at E3.

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